Re: MORE on Crummy Sequenced Sounds

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Posted by f3 on March 23, 2001 at 16:23:55:

In Reply to: MORE on Crummy Sequenced Sounds posted by Runamuck on March 23, 2001 at 13:41:13:

Real phasing (splitting the signal in two, inverting one, delaying and mixing it back in) seems an unlikely thing to be happening, but the gods of audio do funny things sometimes...

I'm suspecting instead that there's a message going out in the earliest moments of your sequence that is altering an effects patch and/or effects send setup from what you want it to be. I suspect this in part because you said it doesn't happen in program mode or mix when you're out of the sequence, and because you say that toggling to program mode and back to mix mode when the sequence is running makes it go away.

Can you provide a little more info to help with diagnostics:

1) Is this your own sequence or something you downloaded or obtained from elsewhere?

2) What 'mix' patch are you actually in when this happens? Multitimbral?? Some other? Is this a GM mode sequence?

3) What are all of the specific patches in the mix?

4) What are the effects send / effects patch selections?

5) Can you look at a comprehensive "events" list in Cubasis and see what is going out on all channels in the first few moments of the sequence? Make sure this includes any Sysex messages (especially if this is a sequence you picked up from someone else). Basically, is there anything there that looks like it doesn't belong.

6) Do you have a measure or two of blank space between when you send the patch messages to each channel and when the actual sequence (notes) itself starts up? Or do notes etc all start on measure 1, beat 1?

This could help provide some clues, or at least some avenues to explore. Let us know -- good luck.


: Thank you all for the suggestions so far but I still have the problem. Let me clarify just a bit:
: 1. Actually the correct term for the problem I am having I believe is phasing
: 2. This is only happening in Mix Mode
: 3. The problem occurs only when sequencing
: 4 The problems begins right at the beginning of the sequence (as soon as the part starts)
: 5. I canget rid of the phasing problem while the sequence is running by simply going to program mode and then back to mix mode
: 6 I believe the problem occurs only on stereo patches (ie. a stereo piano) Although I have not tried every patch in the QS8, I believe it is only stereo patches that are affected

: In responce to those who have already offered help,
: 1 Thank you. However I have no idea how to enter sysex messages like that. And if I did, is that really the simplest way to solve this problem?
: 2.It was suggested that I disable echo in the midi setup page of Cubase. I have tried that but when I uncheck the 'Active', I get nothing. Also my program (3.7r2)has no 'auto or manual setting for echo.

: I sure appreciate your help and all the help thats already been given

: Thanks again
: Jim

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